I just saw these photos for the first time. It seems to me that some Muslims are using freedom to destroy the freedoms of the West.
Have you seen these photos before?
Here's the direct link: http://www.ojjpac.org/Islam.asp
Steve
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I just saw these photos for the first time. It seems to me that some Muslims are using freedom to destroy the freedoms of the West.
Have you seen these photos before?
Here's the direct link: http://www.ojjpac.org/Islam.asp
Steve
Frightning.
Yeah, I've seen them before. They came from Mayfield, CA. Same game, different players. :evil:Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve
They call us War mongers! They should look in the mirror!
This is going to be in all of our countries sooner or later, probably sooner! :cry:
Nitty is right. As we know muslims believe in the quaran. What many people don't know is that this evil book states that anyone who isn't muslim is an infidel. And we know what many muslims and islam radicals think of us infidels.
They said, "We will use your democracy, to destroy your democracy."
They are doing that, with the help of our local, state and federal governments.
They have learned to manipulate well, just as the illegals are doing.
I do not like to be manipulated!
Our government was hoping you wouldn't notice. The peaceful religion is spreading and we'll all go to pieces!Quote:
Originally Posted by moosetracks
I'd heard the stories of that happening in Europe, but I never saw the pictures. Minnesota's 5th district should pay attention. We should all pay attention. They have no tolerance for other relations. That's why I laugh at Hugo Chavez for trying to join forces with Ahmadenijad. Chavez is not Muslim. He is an infidel. The Islamists will take him out unless he converts. Of course, he is spineless, so he probably would. I guess that would be one way to stop the majority of these illegals: let the muslims take over.
Remember, the only reason why they are able to manipulate us is because we have a thug for a President who doesn't take these threats seriously enough to close our borders. Europe should kick them all out and it may be time to profile to do that.Quote:
They have learned to manipulate well, just as the illegals are doing.
The age of Mr. nice guy is over.
Anyone here remember the movie "Red Dawn"? It was a very realistic movie about being hit in the heart of America by communists and that it was the average person (in this movie a band of teens and others) who fought back where they were.
To me it was symbolic, as I think someday we may have to resort to defending ourselves in our own land becasue our government has become so inept and hogtied by political correctness and just plain stupidity.
I am certainly not talking about anything but defense of our communities. I hope and pray we never have to resort to this. I hope our government will wake up and start doing what is right for America and the safety of every citizen here.
This kind of hatred is part and parcel of this kind of "religion".
AE I think many folks feel this way. I know I do. Only thing I would add is: If not us, who?Quote:
I am certainly not talking about anything but defense of our communities. I hope and pray we never have to resort to this. I hope our government will wake up and start doing what is right for America and the safety of every citizen here.
AmericanElizabeth Wrote:
Sure, they`ll wake up, but it will take more that 9/11, and by then it will be to late for them to do anything. It will either be in our hands or the Militarys hands and they`ll be useless. even more so if not completely.Quote:
I am certainly not talking about anything but defense of our communities. I hope and pray we never have to resort to this. I hope our government will wake up and start doing what is right for America and the safety of every citizen here.
Thanks for the pictures, Steve. It seems like everything is happening at once, and our politicians are sitting on their hands. Our laws seem to be hindering our progress in doing what is right.
AmericanElizabeth, Red Dawn is one of my all time favorite movies, probably a little unrealistic with the teen-agers, but who knows, if need be they might be the ones who step up to the plate when the call comes! Perhaps the gangs could do a little constructive fighting then, if nothing else they could just drive by and shoot the intruders! I don't mean to be funny or sarcastic here, as I think this is a very serious business and it might just be a matter of time before we are in a situation just like the movie portrayed. :cry: I wonder, would the Illegals from Mexico fight for the US or on the side of the Islamic radicals :?: I think that is a fair question since they seem hell bent on taking over our country!
These pic's have been around awhile, this demonstration took place in England somewhere around or in London.
Many of these militant illegal orgs would fight with the Islamists just to get rid of us, and think they had a friend. Then, when they refuse to become Muslim, the Islamists would turn on them.
My feelings Nitty is that they would not fight for America as it is now, they would want some deal with the enemy (whoever it could be) in order to get some exclusive territory of their own.
I believe they would make a deal to eliminate as many Americans as they could, I would not put it past them.
Me either AmericanElizabeth, but they are forgetting one thing, well Duh, who is gong to take care of them then? I am not going to say that all illegal immigrants would fight on the side of the islamic fighters, a lot of them would though the more radical groups would for sure.
AmericanElizabeth wroteNow that the government can use the militaryagainst US citizens which was once against the constitution, any 'uprisings' to defend our communities will be viewed as 'terorrism' and the participants not viewed as patriots, but as 'terorrists'Quote:
am certainly not talking about anything but defense of our communities. I hope and pray we never have to resort to this. I hope our government will wake up and start doing what is right for America and the safety of every citizen here.
Rockfish, I was talking about defending ourselves against outsiders, not our own military of government. Hopefully, though, our government will start doing the right thing, but I think it will take us forcing them to, unfortunately.
Socialists/leftists are either sympathetic to or complicit with Islamists. It is always interesting to me that the values that the far left cherish, i.e, gay rights, abortion, no judgments on personal behavior, women's rights, secularism, etc., are antithetical to the values of Islamists. They would be the first ones to have their heads on the chopping block; you'd think they would be the ones who are most opposed to the Islamists instead of sympathizing with them.
The only thing I can figure is that they are using Islam to tear down capitalism and Western society in general, thinking that in the end they will be able to control the Islamists and come out on top. But in my opinion, they are underestimating Islam.
noyoucannot, I think you have a very good point there. It does seems so backwards that they support Islam 100% to a fault, yet the Islamic extremists, maybe even the average one, would have them dead pronto if they were in charge.
I just think this about the socialists and anarchists......they are all plain idiots. Remember what Forest's momma said' "stupid is as stupid does"?
A lot of commentators have said the reason these Islamists hate us is because of a lot of what Hollywood produces. What kind of people do we have it Hollywood? Well, I haven't seen too many conservatives over there.
As a Christian, I think that the reason Islamic extremists hate America is that we are a Christian nation. I do not care what they try to say about the "Crusaders", that was a campaign by the Catholic Church centuries ago, most of America is Protestant, which is a completely different line of beliefs.
We always give them room to show themselves as being kind and considerate, but those moderates never stand up to the extremists, thus giving the extremists more fuel to believe they are being supported by ALL Muslim believers.
This leads me to believe that deep down ALL Muslims really do not want to co-exist peacefully with Christians, as well they truly do believe what they are taught in their countries, the lies and propoganda about America and Christians.
Personally, I do not want us letting in people, into America, that view America and it's people through this way, it simply will be our downfall.
As for Hollywood. America can do without it's glutonous and corrupt industry. I don't blame other nations or believers for their view of what Hollywood produces.
AmericanElizabeth wrote:
Very true, Elizabeth. They are taught that they are superior to us on several levels.Quote:
This leads me to believe that deep down ALL Muslims really do not want to co-exist peacefully with Christians, as well they truly do believe what they are taught in their countries, the lies and propoganda about America and Christians.
I agree, but it was islam that attacked the free world in the 600th hundreds. In which destroyed everything they touched. IF the liberals understanded history they would not be on their side. They made there way forcing islam on people, and destroying any one that had thought or knowledge...Quote:
Originally Posted by AmericanElizabeth
Liberals will never understand nor accept history. They consider themselves "progressive" and see no need to live in the past.
Matthew, this is correct, the Moores came into parts of Europe and took over, it is something that is highly overlooked when the libs want to act as though the Christians of Europe were so awful during the Crusades.
There is not one innocent people, culture or society that has not committed some heinous act upon another, it is the same for the supposed "peaceful Muslims".
One of the interesting things about he Moors invasion of Spain was that they allowed the Jews to run the banks.
TyRANTosaur, I know how rumors abound, but I will attempt to set the record straight on this. It was a well known fact that the Jewish people were honest, they could be trusted, as well, they always seemed to be profitable, which the Moors felt was in their best interests.
As a Christian, and a firm believer that the Jewish people are Gods chosen, I believe, as many do, that they excelled at this, and many other things, because God chooses to continue to bless them with many abilities.
The Moors (Muslims) did do whatever benefited them, irregardless of who they were dealing with.
I agree about the Jews. It is amazing about how opportunistic the Muslim fanatics are, how they even use today Hugo Chavez, Daniel Ortega, and others to get what they want.
I do remember this movie. It was a little before its time when it came out, during the cold war times I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by AmericanElizabeth
For some reason I think some of it is happening all over again, with different players this time.
There are turmoils in Mexico and the left is fueling most of it. Venezuela is under Chavez dictatorship. Chavez has frinds in Iran and Nicaragua, the same leftists are back in power in Nicaragua and we are being invaded by millions of illegals from Mexico and Cedntral America.
They all have one thing in common, they hate America.
The sad part of all this is that at some point a possible war may be fought in our own land if the government does not see the light. Something is brewing on this continent and our government is too busy with the Middle East situation.
Red Dawn Trailer for the unitiated
Red Dawn (Video 1984)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_I4WgBfETc
Interpretive Music Video made of red dawn clips
Operation Red Dawn (music video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWAbH3gPblo
Yes, When I think about it there is a lot of symbolism. Scary thought that it could all end up coming to that. I, too hope our government wakes up.Quote:
AmericanElizabeth wrote:
Anyone here remember the movie "Red Dawn"? It was a very realistic movie about being hit in the heart of America by communists and that it was the average person (in this movie a band of teens and others) who fought back where they were.
To me it was symbolic, as I think someday we may have to resort to defending ourselves in our own land becasue our government has become so inept and hogtied by political correctness and just plain stupidity
As a Christian, I think that the reason Islamic extremists hate America is that we are a Christian nation. I do not care what they try to say about the "Crusaders", that was a campaign by the Catholic Church centuries ago, most of America is Protestant, which is a completely different line of beliefs.
We always give them room to show themselves as being kind and considerate, but those moderates never stand up to the extremists, thus giving the extremists more fuel to believe they are being supported by ALL Muslim believers.
This leads me to believe that deep down ALL Muslims really do not want to co-exist peacefully with Christians, as well they truly do believe what they are taught in their countries, the lies and propoganda about America and Christians.
Personally, I do not want us letting in people, into America, that view America and it's people through this way, it simply will be our downfall.
As for Hollywood. America can do without it's glutonous and corrupt industry. I don't blame other nations or believers for their view of what Hollywood produces.
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I disagree. I think that nobody hated the US up until the US started getting involved in their internal affairs after WW2. The US has been controlling the goverments in the middle east and putting in power people like Saddam, who was funded by the US in his war against Iran. When Saddam did all the attrocities he is accused for in the 1980's the US turned a bind eye because back then it suited its goals.
I haven't heard of any terrorists before WW2 or any violence against Americans before WW2 in the middle east.
This is the true face of Muslims and their agenda. It isn't by accident the muslim population is growing in America.
Just read a book review, where the author says it's Hollywood, music, types of games for game systems, etc. that is sent overseas, and the Muslims think we are all depraved.Quote:
Originally Posted by TyRANTosaur
Foreigners need to learn to turn their head on Hollywood and gangster rap, as most American's have. Lately, Hollywood has been losing money, big time!